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July 22, 2013
8:42 pm
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Okay, I think I know one reason they delayed the rollout of the data plans.

They knew that many of their UMB users would switch to something else, but they also probably had inside information from Rogers that everyone would be upping the price of their data plans significantly in a short period of time to conform with the wireless code of conduct. By waiting until all of the other rates are official they know not as many people will leave because there isn't any better option.

I can't believe that 1GB at Koodo used to be $20, and now it is $30. 3GB used to be $30 and now it is $70. I was planning to go to their $25 plan (which is now $30) and use less than 1GB to pay $45 which I thought was already too high. Now the same thing would cost me $60.

If speakout data plans are also rediculous, I will be going without internet on my phone and barely use it, or go with a tablet plan and pay $35/month for 5GB. Hopefully those plans stick around for a while.

July 23, 2013
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I went with the Telus Pay as you go and switched to a post paid flex tablet plan. There were a few advantages to this. I got my phone for free in April because of a now expired $50 trade in your CDMA phone promotion, and bought their $50 LG A341 phone with it, so that cost me nothing. I had got $20 credit with that prepaid phone SIM. Next, I bought ten $25 prepaid Telus cards ($250) on ebay for $130, (best deal is now $180), and loaded up my account so that I got $270 on it in prepaid credit. Then I talked to Telus to switch to post paid, and transferred the pre paid balance to it. I then got the flex tablet plan

$5 up to 10 MB
$10 for up to 100 MB
$20 for up to 1 GB
$35 for up to 3 GB
$50 for up to 5 GB

I will probably go through less that 1 GB a month, so I am paying about $10 of my money for that.

There was a few downsides. One is time, it took 2 hours to get this to happen, so have a good speaker phone and something else to do while you are doing this. The credit card verification was a huge hassle also. Another minor issue is that you do not get rebated on the tax on your prepaid cards, so you are double taxed. Not a huge issue in my situation, but it is something to consider.

July 23, 2013
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that is what I intend to change to as well, didn't know there are cheaper refill option for telus. thanks for the tips

July 23, 2013
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snardos said:

Okay, I think I know one reason they delayed the rollout of the data plans.


Seems like on other forums people are noticing that they are jacking up prices for 2 year contracts.

July 24, 2013
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chimpanzee said:

that is what I intend to change to as well, didn't know there are cheaper refill option for telus. thanks for the tips


Just to be clear, you cannot add Telus refill cards to a post paid account, you have to add them your prepaid account, then switch it to post paid.

July 24, 2013
3:34 pm
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bridonca said:

Just to be clear, you cannot add Telus refill cards to a post paid account, you have to add them your prepaid account, then switch it to post paid.


The Telus website says that they'll transfer over up to $100 to postpaid. How did you get them to transfer $270?

July 24, 2013
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Jamesey said:

bridonca said:

Just to be clear, you cannot add Telus refill cards to a post paid account, you have to add them your prepaid account, then switch it to post paid.


The Telus website says that they'll transfer over up to $100 to postpaid. How did you get them to transfer $270?


I switched from Telus prepaid to post paid a couple of weeks ago. The Telus CSR told me there was once a limitation on how much pre paid credit could be put on, but that limitation no longer exists. You can put in as much pre paid credit as you want. But can change again, of course. I would probably not load up on the credit, until you get a firm answer from the CSR.

July 26, 2013
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Interesting. I have about $250 in Telus top-up cards from eBay. Will have to give them a call and see what they say.

July 26, 2013
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This is getting a bit off topic, but I don't think it's far off to say that mobile pricing has been thrown for a loop because of the CRTC action.

Suddenly I feel as if I should be trying to secure more data at current rates before pricing gets worse. If I stay level headed though, I'll just keep my plan which is affordable to me and perhaps supplement it with a mobile internet or tablet plan for big data. The flex option for getting up to 5GB for only $35 is looking more attractive all the time. I should grab a plan before they start fiddling with that as well.

July 30, 2013
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bridonca said:

I bought ten $25 prepaid Telus cards ($250) on ebay for $130


Interesting... I didn't even know that's possible. Have you done that before? I'm just wondering if this is the best way to top-up Telus. I'd just be worried they're not legit vouchers/cards. Have you had any problems?

July 31, 2013
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There is/was 3 ebay vendors selling them. They all have good feedback, and they have been selling them for a while.

From what I understand, these ebay vendors are in the business of unlocking and debranding of older phones, which they buy them in lots, and selling them as unlocked for a better price. Anyway, they bought lots of old stock Telus phones which came with packaged with $25 start up credits, which do not expire. Sadly Telus does not offer cards like this anymore, it is either a credit or a number on a receipt. But these old cards are valid, and it would be hard for Telus to invalidate them, because they have no legal leg to stand on. (No expiry date on them, nothing on the terms and conditions about transferring card to other accounts) My take is that Telus knows what is going on, and they are treating it as a promotional vehicle. There is only a finite amount of these cards in circulation, after all.

I can only go with my experience and say these cards are valid as of 3 weeks ago. I would also buy from a eBay vendor that has a good rating. After that, it is still a risk, but I would wager a manageable one.

July 31, 2013
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Is there a different apn for using the TELUS tablet plan in a mobile phone?

Also, how's the speed? Are you getting LTE?

July 31, 2013
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chsble said:

Is there a different apn for using the TELUS tablet plan in a mobile phone?

Also, how's the speed? Are you getting LTE?


Yeah that is a big one I failed to mention. You pick the wrong APN (the default APN) and you will get charged big time!

Here are the correct settings

APN: isp.telus.com
proxy: 74.49.0.18
port: 80

As for speed, it seems faster than Speakout. Skype works fine. I do not use a LTE SIM card, so I cannot comment on the LTE speed, but the 3G+ is fast enough for my purposes.

July 31, 2013
11:11 am
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Thanks for the quick reply.

Can you also make cell phone calls through the tablet plan if it's installed in your phone? Do they give you a phone number?
If so, what's the rate? It must be expensive I'm guessing.

July 31, 2013
11:43 am
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Can you also keep track of your data usage online?

July 31, 2013
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Phone calls are horridly expensive, $1 a minute. Make sure you have VOIP on there if you intend to make phone calls.

There is a usage counter that you can access via a web site.

August 1, 2013
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Do they actually give you a phone number as well when you get a sim with a tablet plan?

August 1, 2013
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Yeah, you get a phone number. I think the SIM is free. I got a prepaid phone, and it came with a SIM and $20 of prepaid credit, so I do not know the cost of a postpaid SIM, either $5 or free, depending on where you get it.

August 19, 2013
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FYI, PetroCan getting rid of UMB as well (same parent company as SO).

"Effective summer 2013, the unlimited mobile web browsing plan will be discontinued. We are working on new plans so keep checking back! More information will be available at the beginning of September."

September 1, 2013
8:53 am
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These clowns will be scrambling after they lose half their customers. I have absolutely no use for speakout without the UMB and really unhappy I bought a $100 voucher. Expect to see speakout vanish in the next year.