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Stephanie said:

I was starting to wonder when SO would post an update about their new Data plan - considering UMB would be depreciated at the end of this month, I figured they couldn't wait any longer than end of this week.

And sure enough, there's an update! Just not the kind of update we were waiting for:

We regret to notify users that the Data services will be delayed.

The good news is that Browse Feature will continue in its current format until Data service begins later this year.

We apologize to the users who have been patiently waiting for Data Services.

Once we have confirmed the Data launch dates, we will update the website.

Later this year... booo! I was really hoping for news this summer. Ah well! I've lived a year without any data, I can last another few months or however long it takes.

Go away... if you wanted real Data there are 3 telcos ready to rape your wallet... what are you waiting for?

I'll even give you a free SIM card... enjoy paying $0.03/kb....
The only reason you are here on Speakout is because you a poor, so stop the pretentious attitude.

I just want to know where they're going to price it. I'm being foolishly optomistic that there will be a low cost option.

In my ideal world, it would be true PAYG data. Since they charge $0.25 / minute for voice, maybe $0.25 per... I dunno what. Megabyte?

Failing that, $5.00 / month for something. 500MB? 100MB? 50MB? At $5 per month I'd take it. I just want the option to check mail those rare times I'm not in WiFi range. $5 is my sweet spot.

At $10.00 / month for some kind of 'value plan' I would really have to think about it. That's about my limit, and I have never bothered with UMB because I don't need or want to surf the web on a phone, and it wouldn't include access to email because the ports are blocked.

If they come in at $15 / month, I don't care what they're offering I won't get it. It could be unlimited LTE and I wouldn't get it.

This is why I was hoping they would announce the rates.

Using Opera Mini, I can check my local movie showtimes for 53kb. @ $1/mb(wind prices), 53kb would cost 5c to get that info.

Now $1/mb is pretty expensive, but with opera mini, I can get what I need at a reasonable price.

A pay per use would suit me better. 1c/50kb would suit me fine.

I agree that it sounds like 7Eleven may have decided to switch to data on its own accord, rather than being "forced" by Rogers. But I still don't see how you can call what they did with their initial data announcement "a conspiracy theory." Look at it logically:

1. Did they know they were moving to data from UMB? Of course.
2. Did they know that in at least one month in advance of their announcement? I would think so.

Therefore:

3. Since they knew they were going to be moving to data, and likely knew it in advance of their April promo, then they clearly advertised their April promo knowing full well that anyone buying a $100 voucher, thinking they would use it for UMB, would be out of luck within a couple of months.

All they would've had to do, to avoid that, would've been to put a note on their promo advertisement saying "Please note that UMB will be phasing out at the end of June, when we will be bringing you a full-featured data plan." The fact they didn't makes it fairly obvious (at least to anyone who understands how corporations work) that they didn't want to spoil the surprise (and incidentally lose out on those $100 signups).

Maybe all the above is true, maybe it isn't, but I'd hardly dismiss the idea as "a conspiracy theory."

Anyway, it's all moot now. We'll see what data plan they come up with.

LOL! Did some surveys... yeah right, this is Speakout we're talking about, remeber?

Come on folks. It's Rogers' call one way or another. If Speakout had done marketing research and had a replacement in mind for UMB, they would have just said what it's going to be and what date it will be available instead off all of these false starts and vague statements.

It's only a question of wether Rogers pulled the plug on UMB themselves or if Speakout asked for something else on it's own initiative but Rogers has been flip-flopping on the change so that Speakout is left hanging.

Of course Speakout is not going to come out and say that they don't know what they'll be able to offer because it depends on Rogers. Every re-seller and off-brander tries to maintain some appearence of being it's own product, When you go to the General Tire website, you're not going to see a statement like 'We got some new tires on the way, but we still don't know which discontinued treds from the Continental corporate family will be assigned to us, but we'll let you mkow as soon as we find out"

then you may want to checkout president choice if you have that in your area.

5 bucks for 100MB so 60 bucks a year and leave 40 bucks for other use(as the top up is at best 100 for 365 days).

the nice thing is they don't have e911 which SO ding 1.25 every month. coverage wise, I believe bell is better than rogers(for my area anyway)

PC Telecom's $5/100MB is an add-on if you are an a monthly plan. It's $10/100MB for anytime rates. Not a great deal if you ask me.

Just check their website, the plan switching to data has been delayed which is a good new.

"SpeakOut Data Update

We regret to notify users that the Data services will be delayed.

The good news is that Browse Feature will continue in its current format until Data service begins later this year.

We apologize to the users who have been patiently waiting for Data Services.

Once we have confirmed the Data launch dates, we will update the website.

We thank you for your patience and understanding as we work to improve SpeakOut Wireless’ program."

SND253 said:

… It's Rogers' call one way or another. If Speakout had done marketing research and had a replacement in mind for UMB, they would have just said what it's going to be and what date it will be available instead off all of these false starts and vague statements.

It's only a question of wether Rogers pulled the plug on UMB themselves or if Speakout asked for something else…

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It is much more likely that the new CRTC rules are changing RoBelUs market models and now SO needs to re work their market model as well. There is an aweful lot of flipflop in the whole cell market these days ( consider Verizon wants in to the Canadian market ! ) and I'll bet it continues to flipflop until at least this fall.

Meanwhile, you mean UMB ( which is still data to Roger's network ) is still priced at $5.00/GB on SO and nobody here notices that? I see this as the key point. Even if they boosted UMB to $15 ( as per SMS ) that would still be $7.50/GB. You gotta ask yourself what kind of business model goes from $5/GB to ( e.g. ) $5/100MB and not fall flat on its face???

This will get more interesting rather than less… LOL

This is comparing apples to oranges. A data plan is not a UMB plan.

Yes you managed to torque a UMB plan into a data plan

The fact that the UMB plan allows most of the apps that I use to work out of the box (no proxy, no hacking) means that I will expect a similar price point. Email, Maps, Toronto Transit apps. I don't want to see my rates doubled just in order to do the things I'm doing now.