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November 1, 2013
2:50 pm
George101
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Settings/Cellular and scroll down. Do a data use reset to monitor for next 30 days.

November 2, 2013
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10cent / meg = 10$ / 100 meg = $100 / gig.

That is horrible. Especially at LTE speeds where 100 meg can be used in seconds forget over a month.

Even with the $20/month plan with the 1 gig add on for $25, it reverts to 10c/meg afterwards. So $45 for the first gig and $100 per gig afterwards.

Since there is no flex plan and no cap any user of data must be very diligent in monitoring and limiting use or could end up with a very nasty surprise at the end of the 30 day period.

I use data primarily commuting to work with a round trip of about 1.5 hours. Without any video at all I typically use 100 meg within that 1.5 hours. If I were to download say a TED video, or god forbid leave my app updates on then the 100 meg would be gone in seconds.

If you are diligent about monitoring (painful time consuming and error prone exercise) and you don't use cell data much then the 10c / meg may be ok. A monitoring app with selectable cutoff would be essential to avoid surprises. Even then if the limit is hit then you are without cellular data until the next 30 day period.

HORRIBLE. There are MUCH better phone and data plans out there. Speakout is now only good for use as an emergency phone or for visitors to Canada wanting phone use for a few days a year. The data rate is horrible and the phone plans are nothing special.

UMB was great while it lasted. I am disappointed that Speakout could not provide a reasonable new data plan.

November 5, 2013
2:01 pm
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My UMB auto-renewed today, says it will expire Dec 5, 2013. Just thought I'd let others know. I was expecting it to expire like others have mentioned, but I checked on the SO website and I'm good for another 30 days.

November 5, 2013
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if i read the message on the website right, it would auto renew once in Oct, then Nov(2 renew) then it would be cancelled. IOW, the last renew that can happen is Nov 30

November 7, 2013
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Just to put the cost of this data plan into perspective. I work for Gov't and have to use a gov't issued cell phone for work. They switched us to Rogers from Telus a few years ago. My plan includes data, and the cost is one cent per megabyte, and I seem to recall that voice was a penny per minute Canada and 3-5 cents for USA. Employees have asked Rogers for a similar rate for their personal phones, no dice.

November 8, 2013
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Just prior, I did $100 top-up because of the 25% bonus. Now this...

Now I know why I was always hesitant to top up a large amount.

Called and asked them to reverse, as I was counting on unlimited browsing. They said they won't refund purchased minutes. Boooo!!!

Anyone else try to get there $100 top-up refunded?

(In hindsight, i note i said 100 minutes and not 100$. Does that matter?)

November 12, 2013
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I feel bad for you, but it's been documented for quite a while that unlimited browsing was going away (originally back to around May I believe).

November 12, 2013
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Airtime is never refundable.

November 13, 2013
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Thx for the replies. I didn't see any notice of unlimited browsing going away, but I'm very sporadic on their website and this website.

I'm very sporadic on my usage as well, so maybe the 100MB might work for me... I was in my car (parked not driving and I only used about 2MB to look a few things up/check a couple of sites.

November 13, 2013
9:30 am
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Mr. Speakout, I have been using your UMB for some years. Now you have shoot in your foot by inventing new data scam. As you can read comments above and do the math this is the most expensive service now. Just taking advantage of people who has less use of cell phone, charging them ridiculously and picking their pocket - don,t believe do the math.
Any way now I am saying thank you and not interested in your new offers and promotions anymore --- bye bye.

November 14, 2013
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Android Apps that running on this new Speakout data plan: BBM, Skype, Comwave, WeChat, Whatsapp, Vtok, GrooVe IP, Facebook, Outlook, Gmail, Y!Mail, Twitter, Google Maps, Yelp, Locals plus all apps that previously running on Unlimited Browsing.

Does anyone know how many minutes per MB for using VOIP?

November 15, 2013
7:38 am
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danoey said:

Android Apps that running on this new Speakout data plan: BBM, Skype, Comwave, WeChat, Whatsapp, Vtok, GrooVe IP, Facebook, Outlook, Gmail, Y!Mail, Twitter, Google Maps, Yelp, Locals plus all apps that previously running on Unlimited Browsing.

Does anyone know how many minutes per MB for using VOIP?


I understand that a "typical" VOIP service uses about 0.5 MB per minute therefore you should get about 200 minutes / 100 MB (i.e. $0.05 per minute, or free if you have Data anyway and can stay within your 100 MB block). I spent some time recently looking for a reasonable VOIP service and came up dry. Fongo works, sort of, with dropped calls and an irritating echo (to the person on the land line end of the call). I looked at several pay-for VOIP services and they seemed no better. Incidentally I found that voice is not simultaneously both directions. I just seems to switch quickly. So if you say something when the other person is talking they will not hear it. You have to pause a moment after they stop before speaking. I looked at Skype voice and found that they do not provide Canadian incoming numbers so all calls to your mobile phone would need to be long distance. Not acceptable either.

So if anybody knows of a VOIP service that provides a local incoming telephone number and acts more or less like a regular cell service in terms of quality and reliability, I'd like to hear about it.

Incidentally I asked Speakout if VOIP over the Data service is permitted and they said that it is.

November 15, 2013
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I believe Fongo now does echo cancellation. Fondle slabs sold nowadays make for awful phone, and tricks have to be enacted to get passable audio. VOIP programs now have to enact echo cancellation to work on a slab phone.

VOIP over 3G can be an awful experience. 99% of the time, the poor quality is due to the internet carrier, whatever it may be.

I ended up getting Rogers prepaid for voice. You can get local 6 pm evenings and weekends for $85 a year, and 100 daytime minutes for the year. Not good if you yak a lot on the day, but at least the voice quality is reliable. As an added bonus, I can use a flip phone for voice, which is not only cheap, it sounds better also. The slab makes a better data device anyway.

November 16, 2013
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Don't mean to hijack this thread, but be careful of your data usage on the new value plans. If you happen to use up the plan's quota before the month is up, SpeakOut will automatically switch your data billing to $0.10/mb without notifying you.

Depending on your usage, you can quickly drain the cash balance on your account if you're not paying attention.

I'll be switching to a new carrier by the end of the year. You can see a more detailed rant about my experience here if you care to -> https://www.speakoutwireless.ca/speak/reviews/goodbye-speakout/

November 17, 2013
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I ended up getting Rogers prepaid for voice.

That's an interesting solution. So bridonca, did you keep the Speakout Data add-on on one device, and then get another Sim for a Rogers prepaid voice plan? What is the total cost of the Rogers prepaid voice plan then, $100.00?

Sounds like a good idea, as you can use any device that tethers for your data and get 10 months for $100.00 as long as you stay within the limit of 100mb/month, and then use a larger tablet for your email, etc., and something like a flip phone for voice.

November 18, 2013
2:36 am
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http://www.rogers.com/web/cont.....lydiscount
The plan cost me $100 plus $5 for the SIM. I already had a flip phone, they are pretty easy to get cheap on Kijiji. I bought the $100 card at one of Loblaws tax free sales, so no added tax.

If you put on $100 you get $105 credit. You have to register for that for some reason.

$100 will cover this plan, 911 fee(s) and the odd extra call.

The bad:

Voice mail is free, but you get charged minutes if a message is left or you check the message during daytime hours. You can disable voice mail, which I strongly encourage.

Daytime minutes are 40 cents a minute, Long distance is probably worse.

You get charged 25 cents for every SMS, incoming or outgoing. You cannot disable SMS. So hopefully, you do not get too many spam texts or drunk dialers.

This plan was supposed to expire November 5th, but it has been extended to February.
http://www.rogers.com/web/cont.....lydiscount

As for Speakout, I am still grandfathered to UMB, and I will probably go with Telus's tablet plan. It costs $20 for 1GB of data, pricey, but better than the cruft Speakout is currently offering.

When my Speakout credit expires, I will pay $25 a year, and throw the phone in the glove compartment in case of emergencies.

November 18, 2013
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bridonca said:

…and I will probably go with Telus's tablet plan. It costs $20 for 1GB of data, pricey, but better than the cruft Speakout is currently offering.

When my Speakout credit expires, I will pay $25 a year, and throw the phone in the glove compartment in case of emergencies.


I am using this same approach but with Bell and it seems to be working out quite well for my use case. I use a lot of data and rarely make voice calls.

Their flex iPad plan is also $20 for 1G. One advantage over Telus is that you won't need to mess around with APN setting to make it work on a phone. For me, it works out to be $16 because they give me $4 discount for combining the bill with my existing home Internet bill (I have their Fibe 25 service). They also didn't charge me for SIM card and activation. It has good LTE and 3G coverage in my area.

So far I have not found the need to use my Speakout even as an emergency phone. In fact the Bell iPad plan allows you to make calls at 50 cents per minute. I am thinking of keeping it simple by getting rid of my Speakout phone all together and just using the Bell iPad plan to make emergency voice calls. My rationale is that if it is a real emergency situation, whether it is 50 cents or 25 cents per minute is irrelevant. Also, you don't want to be running out of Speakout credit in an emergency situation, right? The Bell ipad plan charges 20 cents per outcoming text (vs Speakout's 10 cents), and free incoming text. They don't charge $1.25 per month for 911 like Speakout. Something to consider.

November 18, 2013
6:57 am
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yes, i also like the bell plan. but can you port number onto it ?

November 18, 2013
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chimpanzee said:

yes, i also like the bell plan. but can you port number onto it ?


You probably can, according to CRTC, if the wireless number is in the same local exchange.

November 18, 2013
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100M for $10 is expensive but bearable. Being unable to cap the expenditure is unacceptable. I just blew $20 off my balance due to the dodgy wifi at work.

SO is for budget conscious consumers, there are no budget conscious features here. They're badly misread their market.

Am upgrading to a 3G ipad and moving my data to wind.