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difference between true data and SO UWB?
April 21, 2013
5:47 am
canadavenyc
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Hi all,

Bear with me here, as believe it or not I'm just getting into iPhone and I've never been on any cellphone plans

Is the UWB that is offered with Speakout the same as regular data plans that you might find with Bell, Telus, Rogers, etc? If not…can someone summarize the main differences in terms of what major types of things would not work on Speakout that WOULD work on a regular data plan?

Like, can I use online GPS apps with UWB (i.e. be able to download road maps on the fly as I travel)? use the Facebook app? the Mail app to check my Gmail account?

April 21, 2013
6:44 am
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No, it's not the same. SpeakOut offers a browsing package, and it is just that, for browsing the Web using a browser. It is not a full fledged data plan that the other carriers you mention offer.

April 21, 2013
8:56 am
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If you read through the forum, you will find threads where other iPhone users describe what they can and can't do. Setting it up requires jumping through some hoops and you have to cut the sim card.

April 22, 2013
4:12 am
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actually it's worst than a browsing plan.

there are the problems:
- most ports won't work (except 80, 443)
- sometimes speed is very slow (30mb/s)
- image compression (when you visit a website, the images you download look pixelated)

I guess few months later I'll switch to public mobile/wind mobile/mobilicity to get a real data plan.

April 22, 2013
4:14 pm
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redjersey said:

actually it's worst than a browsing plan.

there are the problems:
- most ports won't work (except 80, 443)
- sometimes speed is very slow (30mb/s)
- image compression (when you visit a website, the images you download look pixelated)

I guess few months later I'll switch to public mobile/wind mobile/mobilicity to get a real data plan.


Good for you! And you get to pay real data plan rates. Some of us feel this $10 a month deal is an excellent value. Image compression is no big deal, hell I'd be happy if they left them off most pages and just put a link I can click if I really want to see the thing. It's Rogers that does that compression, has nothing to do with SpeakOut. Port 80 and 443 do everything I need. I have no issues with speed, which that has nothing to do with Speakout, a 2G provider. If you get better than 2G you're getting a bonus. I get 4G speeds on my tablet all the time. All in all, it is worth every cent of the paltry 10 bucks a month it costs.

April 23, 2013
5:57 am
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"Unlimited browsing plan" is a little bit misleading IMO. I expect I will be able to access any website without any problem, but nope, websites that require special ports won't work. Website like cpanel td Waterhouse or any URL like http://website.tld:1234

Lots of png won't load properly also images with a bit bigger size look pixelated

Last but not least, unlimited is not really unlimited but I think we all know that

April 23, 2013
6:41 am
46jimbo
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Strange. I can get to the TDWaterhouse website with no problems. Also, the pics look just fine to me. I've just been browsing the Globe and Mail site, and pics look fresh and crisp on my S2. I think the secret is to use Autoproxy.

April 23, 2013
11:00 am
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there are "ways" to make the umb better using iphone (I think discussing in this forum is not allowed so I'm not going to reveal what it is), however it will drain my battery like crazy, so most of the time i have this "disabled"

so if you just use the umb as is, the above are the problems that you will be facing.

April 28, 2013
6:34 am
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Well, just to follow up here, I wound up purchasing the $10 a month UWB offering from PetroCanada Mobility (my current provider–I'm going to be switching to SpeakOut in June) just to test it out. I presume that PetroCanada's UWB is pretty much the same, if not exactly the same, as SpeakOut's?

Anyway, after getting the correct APN settings into my iPhone with the unlockit.co.nz app, I have to say, I'm impressed. It seems to me that UWB (at least PetroCanada's flavour of it) lies somewhere between true data and mere "web browsing, nothing more."

Things that don't work over 3G: iMessage, installing apps, and my regular IMAP email through the Mail app. Also, I don't think Photo Stream is working (at least, the test photo I just took hasn't appeared yet).

However, just about everything else I've tried does work. I get voice navigation and downloaded maps with Google Maps/Apple Maps/CoPilot GPS; the Facebook/Twitter/YouTube/Instagram apps work, my Gmail app works, my iTunes Match works via the Music app, my RBC online banking app works, Crackle works, and so on.

$10 for unlimited "mostly data", as opposed to "full data" or "just browsing", strikes me as an excellent deal.

Well, I guess it's somewhat limited rather than unlimited, right? 2GB? Even so, that's still well within reasonable usage for $10, IMO.

April 28, 2013
11:07 am
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most app works especially on iOS(and Android ics+) because http now becomes the mother of all protocol(with very good reason as that is the sure port that is almost never block by any firewall).

the exceptions are XMPP based IM like iMessage, IMAP and media oriented things that needs UDP.

Push of course would not work as it requires long running socket.

April 30, 2013
9:54 pm
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redjersey said:

there are "ways" to make the umb better using iphone (I think discussing in this forum is not allowed so I'm not going to reveal what it is), however it will drain my battery like crazy, so most of the time i have this "disabled"

so if you just use the umb as is, the above are the problems that you will be facing.


What are the ways to make it better on the iphone? Can someone explain it or pm me?
Thanks

April 30, 2013
10:33 pm
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iphone ? jailbreak and openvpn.

May 1, 2013
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_jason_ said:

redjersey said:

there are "ways" to make the umb better using iphone (I think discussing in this forum is not allowed so I'm not going to reveal what it is), however it will drain my battery like crazy, so most of the time i have this "disabled"

so if you just use the umb as is, the above are the problems that you will be facing.


What are the ways to make it better on the iphone? Can someone explain it or pm me?
Thanks


Do a search for iphone proxy and you'll find lots of info.