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December 4, 2007
9:45 pm
Oxyg3n
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December 5, 2007
8:19 am
Bylo
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Or you can use http://freesms.1888usa.com/sms.....global.htm without having to register or download anything.

December 10, 2007
11:22 pm
talus
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Does using one of these services ever put you on a SPAM list?

December 11, 2007
8:02 am
Bylo
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So far, no (freesms.1888usa.com.)

But if they started to, how would anyone know? If you're paranoid then don't use the service. Also don't give anyone your phone number.

December 11, 2007
6:47 pm
znedo
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I don't think it has anything to do with paranoia, but it's a legitimate concern about using one of these third-party text messaging websites--anyone remember the infamous SMS.AC? This is the Internet, after all, and one ought to exercise some caution. It's not really your own phone number, either, that you should be worried about, but other people's phone numbers to whom you're sending text messages. It's a lot easier to be blasé about this when it's not your own phone number that you're exposing.

Having said that, I presume a sufficient number of people have served as "Guinea pigs" by testing out freesms.1888usa.com with their own phone numbers. We probably would have heard by now if anyone has suddenly started receiving a lot of spam text messages.

December 11, 2007
7:22 pm
Bylo
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This is the Internet, after all, and one ought to exercise some caution.

Absolutely!

It's not really your own phone number, either, that you should be worried about, but other people's phone numbers to whom you're sending text messages. It's a lot easier to be blasé about this when it's not your own phone number that you're exposing.

My point about paranoia is that if someone like freesms.1888usa.com was selling phone numbers to spammers how would you (or the owner of the phone number) know? Their "victims" would simply get some spam SMS. How would they then link it back to you and freesms.1888usa.com?

(I assume, of course, that freesms.1888usa.com wouldn't be so stupid as to put their URL at the end of spam messages.)

So ultimately you have to do some Googling to see if anyone has had problems with a free service. But, if nothing bad comes up, you still have to take your chances and hope for the best. That too "is the Internet." 😉

P.S. Even a web service that has a good record of abiding by their published privacy policy can get sold to someone who may not feel obligated to behave as honourably. That too "is the Internet" and it's happened many times.

December 12, 2007
12:36 am
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Bylo, the main point of my response was that you seemed to be belittling a legitimate concern. To me, talus was asking a legitimate question about spam, and you seemed to be dismissing it as paranoia ("don't give anyone your phone number," you said). Perhaps I was misreading your attitude (I don't think I'm way off base here if anyone wants to re-read your reply to talus), but I'm just calling it the way I see it. If I seem to be reading too much into your reply to talus, then I would also suggest that you've read too much into talus's question.

Yeah, you can never prove with 100% certainty where spam is coming from, but I think if your pals suddenly started receiving spam after you've sent them text messages using a third-party website, most of them can put two and two together. That could be just paranoia, or perhaps that's just a reasonable conclusion that most mortals would reach.

Yes, ultimately, you have to take your chances and hope for the best (because, like you said, even a company with a good track record can be sold to someone else less scrupulous), but that doesn't mean you just give up and don't do anything to safeguard your privacy. Like you said, do some googling and find out if there has been any problems. And ask around, such as in a thread like this one--which is what talus was doing in the first place.

December 12, 2007
8:18 am
Bylo
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you seemed to be belittling a legitimate concern.

That wasn't my intent. I simply don't see how asking on this forum is going to conclusively answer the question.

I think if your pals suddenly started receiving spam after you've sent them text messages using a third-party website, most of them can put two and two together.

That depends on how many legitimate text messages those people get and from how many different people they get them from. Just because they each got a text from me or you via freesms.com doesn't necessarily mean that that's who sold their phone numbers to spammers.

Even if 1,000s have gotten the URL to freesms.com from this site that's still a very small fraction of the total number of people who use that service. So again, if you're looking for an authoritative answer on the reliability and integrity of freesms.com you have to research more widely, e.g. Google.

December 12, 2007
11:01 pm
znedo
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Bylo said:

That depends on how many legitimate text messages those people get and from how many different people they get them from. Just because they each got a text from me or you via freesms.com doesn't necessarily mean that that's who sold their phone numbers to spammers.


That's true, it depends on the situation. If each and every one of your pals started getting spammed shortly after you've sent each of them a text message via freesms.1888usa.com, they and everyone else can put two and two together, even though you might not want to see the obvious.

In my case, I haven't used text-messaging websites for my own phone (I did send a text message to myself once via Google Calendar, if that counts) and I haven't told people to send me text messages via such sites. In fact, I have yet to receive any text spam on my phone and I get maybe one text message a month from friends and family (I'm no teenager, if that weren't obvious). So if someone were to send me a text message via one of those sites and I suddenly started getting spammed shortly afterward, I would know who the culprit was. You can try to convince me that it may be due to a variety of causes, but pardon me if I think that you're just blowing smoke up my butt. Sorry, I just don't have enough book learnin' to talk myself out of seeing the obvious.

Now that I've got that off my chest, let me say this: I'm glad that there are people out there (such as you, Bylo) who are willing to test out websites such as freesms.1888usa.com and pave the way for the rest of us. Of course, just because a website gets a few thumbs up doesn't necessarily guarantee with 100% certainty that it's absolutely legit, but I don't demand or expect such an ironclad guarantee (nor do most people). As for myself, I wouldn't be willing to test out such a website if no one knew anything about the site and if googling for info on the site came up empty. That's just me, though--different strokes for different folks.

Anyway, Peter has freesms.1888usa.com linked in the FAQ and I trust him, so what else does a guy need? In Pete we trust.

December 13, 2007
8:12 am
Bylo
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I did send a text message to myself once via Google Calendar, if that counts

Ergo you trust Google. Not everyone does.

I get maybe one text message a month from friends and family (I'm no teenager, if that weren't obvious). So if someone were to send me a text message via one of those sites and I suddenly started getting spammed shortly afterward, I would know who the culprit was.

As I said, it "depends on how many legitimate text messages" you get. If you were a typical teen you wouldn't have a clue how the spam got started.

you're just blowing smoke up my butt. Sorry, I just don't have enough book learnin' to talk myself out of seeing the obvious.

And you call me on using a word like paranoid? Huh?

Anyway, Peter has freesms.1888usa.com linked in the FAQ and I trust him, so what else does a guy need? In Pete we trust.

So you know Peter personally and can vouch that he's at least as trustworthy as Google? That's good to know. Thanks 😉

December 13, 2007
12:20 pm
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Let's stop this before it turns into a big overblown forum argument with personal insults. I mean, you can bash me all you want 😀 Just stick to the topic and don't bash each other.

December 13, 2007
2:06 pm
Bylo
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No insults intended towards znedo (or you.) Just trying to make a point in (what I thought was) a humourous way. In any case, I think we understand each other's positions so there's no point in continuing.

Peace! ...Bylo

December 13, 2007
5:12 pm
talus
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Good discussion, it was all very helpful actually. I'm not a TEXT messaging kind of guy and I was wondering what people experiences were like.

I don't expect any ironclad guarantee's and I never did think about the repercussion of using it to send messages to someone else's phone - glad someone mentioned it (I would never use the "forward to a friend" email button on a webpage).

As for freesms.1888usa.com, I still wonder why someone would provide a free service such as this. Could it actually be out of the goodness of their hearts? What do they gain?

December 13, 2007
7:14 pm
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talus said:

As for freesms.1888usa.com, I still wonder why someone would provide a free service such as this. Could it actually be out of the goodness of their hearts? What do they gain?


Notice the smattering of ads on that site. They're gaining something there. Mind you, I have ads (see the right sidebar) on this site and trust me, I ain't in it for the money ($25 voucher contests once in a while, anyone?)...

December 13, 2007
11:39 pm
znedo
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Hey Pete, don't worry, I won't let things get out of hand. I just wanted to make a few last comments (unless, of course, Bylo makes a few more comments that might require some more comments from me and around and around we go).

About Bylo calling me out for using "blowing smoke up my butt" since I had earlier called him out for using "paranoid"--well, if you can dish it out, you should be able to take it, too. In case anyone perceives that as an inflammatory remark, I will douse the flames by fully admitting this: Bylo was implying that I was being hypocritical, and yes, I was being hypocritical. Being a hypocrite is one of my many shortcomings.

Bylo, I was being facetious when I made those remarks about trusting Peter. It was to make Peter laugh more than anything. You also pointed out how I "trust" Google. I have absolutely no idea why you were pointing that out and I still don't. I'm not asking you to clarify, though (although you can if you want to), since I think this discussion has pretty much run its course.

December 14, 2007
10:26 am
Bylo
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I was being facetious when I made those remarks about trusting Peter. It was to make Peter laugh more than anything. You also pointed out how I "trust" Google. I have absolutely no idea why you were pointing that out and I still don't. I'm not asking you to clarify, though (although you can if you want to), since I think this discussion has pretty much run its course.

Not to belabour the point but I too was trying to be facetious when I asked if you "can vouch that he's at least as trustworthy as Google" seeing as you'd said earlier that you trusted Google Calendar.