I'm not sure whether 2G or 3G has a stronger signal. What I'm saying is Rogers 3G network is more encompassing... It wouldn't make any sense to turn off 3G with the notion that the 2G signal may be stronger because your phone will do that anyway. As far as my real world experience goes, I've found that my signal has been more consistent on my train ride... since Speakout went to 3G.

OK thanks for that Andrew.

just tried podcast downloading speed is like on wifi.

Noticed the phone is now switching to 3.5G (instead of staying in 3g), aka HSDPA, during podcast downloads. Download speed does not seem all that different than 3g.

The 3G reception will always be better because if you lose the signal, it falls back to 2g if available. On a 2g network, as soon as you lose a signal, the call drops.

Thanks Andrew but you didn't really answer my questions.

Just because 3G reception will always be better doesn't automatically mean a stronger signal is being sent and received from/to the phone.

Are you saying that 3G is sending stronger signals than 2G to the phone?

- they removed IMEI filtering and now iPhone 3g works on speakout

- they removed data type filtering and now 3g is accessible on speakout (the loss of voice while connected via 3g was obviously an overlooked filter as it was corrected very quickly)

And if you want proof that voice is not related to 2g and 3g just turn off both of those and see that you can still make calls just fine.

andreww said:

What does this mean?
- faster browsing
- internet video is playable (You tube seems like it may be blocked)
- App store is now very usable (iPhone users)
- mms now works

Only downside is that you cannot make outgoing calls whilst on 3G. You can however toggle 3G off and make calls on 2G, and you can receive calls on 3G.

I found out (in another thread) that I can't make outgoing calls.
I was simply trying to connect to Speakout to check my balance etc.

I turned off 3G and was then able to make the calls.

I have a question about 2G vs. 3G.
Which of the two services will result in a stronger signal being sent and received from/to the phone?
Let's assume the phone and the tower are at the same distance when the 2G and 3G calls are made.

Further to this question, I have heard that if reception is poor in an area, a phone will work extra hard to try to pull reception to the phone, is this correct and if so how does it square up with the above question?
TIA

i can confirm my phone shows "3g" connection for the last few days (markham, ON). noticed google map is faster while panning.

streaming radio still does not work. will try skype later.

hope this is permanent.

As expected, streaming and voip applications such as skype and fring are still blocked

For the smartphone users out there, you have probably noticed that the 3G network is up now. I am able to call/receive phone calls & browse the internet all on the 3G network!!!

Although this is great news a part of me is a bit skeptical that perhaps somehow SpeakOut or Rogers foir that matter will start to detect all the non branded phones & we may have some difficulties further down the road. I hope this doesn't happen but for now I'm going to remain optimistic & welcome the upgrade.

streaming radio still does not work. will try skype later.

hope this is permanent.

Whatever the reason, something is definitely up.