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        	<title>JamesA on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>You can stop Google Play from downloading updates when not on WiFi. It's in the Google Play settings. But personally I turn off update checking entirely in Google Play, so there are no notifications. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'll check for an update if and when I have an issue with an app. <img class="spSmiley" style="margin:0" class="spSmiley" src="https://www.speakoutwireless.ca/wp-content/sp-resources/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif" title="sf-smile_gif" alt="sf-smile_gif" /></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 10:18:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>bridonca on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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<p><strong>JamesA said </strong></p>
<p>While Opera can help reduce data usage if you use one of the compressed modes like Off Road, it's not browsing that uses up data so fast. With Android it's all the integrated Google Services that burn data at a crazy rate. As soon as you connect you'll take a hit of several hundred Kbytes, and usage will continue in the background at a high rate as long as you are connected. With a tethered device you can't even shut down background data usage on an app-by-app basis.</p>
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<p>I made sure I set my android device so that background data is restricted.  That helped a lot in making the most out of my quota.  I now cannot accidentally update my Google Play apps though 3G anymore, which is nice.   I wish I could get rid of that stupid notification though.  </p>
<p>I certainly did notice the difference off road mode made to my data consumption.  It is a good feature.   </p>
<p>I did mull over using an ad blocker like as away to save me some bandwidth, but it does not seems ads use that much data for the most part.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 05:56:03 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>RGM on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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<p><strong>wmccrack said </strong><br />
I have a Novatel MiFi 2372 set up to use the SO data plan. It took me a long time to set it up. But now that it is set up I can connect any other WiFi device to it i.e. iPhone,iPod, iPad and laptop.</p>
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<p>So . . . can you give us all details of how you set it up to allow tethering. I'd like to do the same.</p>
<p>As I said at the top of this thread I have a Nexus 4. Now running stock KitKat 4.4 (i.e. NOT rooted)<br />
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I played around with all conceivable settings I could find and finally this worked.</p>
<p>Profile: Speakout<br />
The APN settings that worked for me are:  rogers-core-appl1.apn (thats app lowercase L 1.)<br />
All other settings left blank, no PW etc.<br />
But your phone may be different.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 19:01:13 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>JamesA on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>While Opera can help reduce data usage if you use one of the compressed modes like Off Road, it's not browsing that uses up data so fast. With Android it's all the integrated Google Services that burn data at a crazy rate. As soon as you connect you'll take a hit of several hundred Kbytes, and usage will continue in the background at a high rate as long as you are connected. With a tethered device you can't even shut down background data usage on an app-by-app basis.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:41:37 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>ddalley on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, use a data-saving browser, such as Opera Max, that compresses data.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2014 20:12:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>JamesA on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I gave it try using my Moto G phone (Android 4.4.4) on Speakout with data add-on.</p>
<p>I set up the WiFi Hotspot settings in Android under Settings - Wireless and Networks - More - Tethering and Portable HotSpot. Basically you just specify the name, password and authentication type you want for your HotSPot WiFi network (defaults values provided by Android, but you can change them). Then you can turn on WiFi HotSpot on the same Settings page. When you turn on WiFi Hotspot, the regular WiFi connection on the phone goes Off, and a new WiFi network with the name you specified appears for other devices.</p>
<p>So to test it I connected to Speakout (Rogers) in HSPA+ mode, verified that I was getting mobile data for phone apps with Mobile Data enabled. Then I turned on WiFi Hot Spot. Regular WiFi connection went Off, Hot Spot symbol and notification appeared. On my Android tablet I disconnected from my router's WiFi network and connected to the phone's HotSpot network. I verified that I had a working internet connection on the tablet by testing a few internet-connected apps. It's a bit slower than normal, but works. Disconnected and returned everything to normal.</p>
<p>Data usage shows up as a separate entry for HotSpot and Tethering. Used &#62; 1 Mbyte in less than a minute, so you wouldn't want to do much tethering on a $0.10 per Mbyte plan!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:05:14 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>wmccrack on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>RGM said: </strong></p>
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<p>I think I understand what tethering means, being able to connect other devices via the hotspot. Is that so?</p>
<p>I have a Novatel MiFi 2372 set up to use the SO data plan. It took me a long time to set it up. But now that it is set up I can connect any other WiFi device to it i.e. iPhone,iPod, iPad and laptop.</p>
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<p>So . . . can you give us all details of how you set it up to allow tethering. I'd like to do the same.</p>
<p>As I said at the top of this thread I have a Nexus 4. Now running stock KitKat 4.4 (i.e. NOT rooted)</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2014 16:53:35 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>RGM on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I think I understand what tethering means, being able to connect other devices via the hotspot. Is that so?</p>
<p>I have a Novatel MiFi 2372 set up to use the SO data plan. It took me a long time to set it up. But now that it is set up I can connect any other WiFi device to it i.e. iPhone,iPod, iPad and laptop.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:17:52 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>andreww on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Jailbreak and add MyWi. I've been tethering for years.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2014 13:30:37 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>chimpanzee on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>iphone is very cozy with the carrier and if your sim is not provisioned for tethering, it would block you. unlike android(early day at least).</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:00:18 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>btrumper on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I get the same message on my iphone 4s which is factory unlocked.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2014 13:18:31 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>dennismiller on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Rogers phone still locked???</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:16:56 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>megardi on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>On my iPhone I get the message "To enable Personal Hotspot on this account, contact Rogers"</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 06:17:29 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>dennismiller on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That's what I meant.  Simple unlock of the tmobile phone.  Insert SO sim.  Set settings as described on here.  Check tethering on phone option.  Voila!  Works!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 23:24:58 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>wmccrack on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>dennismiller said: </strong></p>
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<p>Android 4.1.1 tmobile prism II unlocked, works fine with basic setup</p>
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<p>Not sure what you mean by "works fine with basic setup". Please explain.</p>
<p>If tethering works without rooting that would be good.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 05:32:44 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Android 4.1.1 tmobile prism II unlocked, works fine with basic setup</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:01:14 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>darrenan on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>So I did some googling and found a solution to my tethering problem.</p>
<p>It was solved by running the following script:<br />
You will need to be rooted and have sqlite3 installed to the /system/xbin/ directory (make sure it has its properties set to executable).  Then run the following script as root.<br />
The good new is that the change appears to hold across reboots so it only needs to be done once.</p>
<p>#!/system/bin/sh<br />
DB="/data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db"</p>
<p>VAL=`/system/xbin/sqlite3 "$DB" "SELECT * FROM global WHERE name='tether_dun_required';"`<br />
if [ "$VAL" == "" ]; then<br />
   /system/xbin/sqlite3 "$DB" "INSERT INTO global VALUES (null, 'tether_dun_required','0');"<br />
else<br />
   /system/xbin/sqlite3 "$DB" "UPDATE global SET value='0' WHERE name='tether_dun_required';"<br />
fi</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:51:06 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>darrenan on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I haven't been able to get tethering to work on the new data plan either.  I'm using a Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.3</p>
<p>It was previously working fine under the old UMB using the goam.com APN</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 08:12:13 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>leonheartx on Hotspot under new data plan</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>wmccrack said: </strong><br />
I have a Nexus 4 (the hotspot) and a Nexus 7 (2013 version, Wifi only). Both are now now updated to Android 4.4 (i.e. Kit Kat). I can set up a hotspot on the Nexus 4 and connect to it with the Nexus 7. Trouble is that there is no internet connectivity when I'm connected. </p>
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<p>Did you ever figure this out?<br />
Same thing for me.</p>
<p>I create a hotspot on my LG G2.<br />
My nexus 7 can connect to the network just fine, but does not load anything that requires data</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:04:45 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>bridonca said: </strong></p>
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<p>Now that UMB is dead, I would not worry about the terms and conditions involving tethering.  I promise you no one is going to enforce it.  You can do what you want with your quota.</p>
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<p>Only problem is that I tried it and it doesn't seem to work.</p>
<p>I have a Nexus 4 (the hotspot) and a Nexus 7 (2013 version, Wifi only). Both are now now updated to Android 4.4 (i.e. Kit Kat). I can set up a hotspot on the Nexus 4 and connect to it with the Nexus 7. Trouble is that there is no internet connectivity when I'm connected. </p>
<p>In Kit Kat this is indicated by an orange WiFi icon in the settings menu (in previous versions of Android this was indicated by a grey WiFi icon on the top status bar - it turned green when there was connectivity). In any event there is no connectivity and I can't pull up a webpage on the Nexus 7 when it says it is connected to the Nexus 4 hotspot.</p>
<p>I'll call tech support tomorrow and update unless someone has a magic solution.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:32:51 -0800</pubDate>
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