Okay I just checked and my sim card is stuck in the phone but I'm sure that with a little work I can get it out again. I'm going to get some 500 grit sandpaper to reduce the size.

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Hi, I am surprised to hear this. I used a cutter to cut down a US T-Mob SIM and didn't sand it down and had no problems. There is however a little force needed anyway to get the SIM card tray out whatever card you have in there, so unless it wasn't in there correctly in the first place, you should be able to get it out with a little force.

I got my iphone 5 yesterday. I got a sim card from 7-11 and a nano sim cutter from amazon.ca The cutter worked great and the card fit in the phone. The card was a little thick but I used my fingernail to stuff it in. I'm a little afraid that I wouldn't be able to take it out again but hey the phone works.

I used the instructions on how to set up a 4g phone and it works the same for the 5g. Browsing works great a long with a few apps, I haven't tested them all but I don't care, I usually only use these apps with wifi.

Okay I just checked and my sim card is stuck in the phone but I'm sure that with a little work I can get it out again. I'm going to get some 500 grit sandpaper to reduce the size.

The only problem I had in the set up is speakout7eleven.ca website was down last night and today but It's back up now so have fun setting up your phone.

It's only a matter of time before you guys screw UMB up. There is no SpeakOut "data plan". It is Unlimited Mobile Browsing. If you can afford $700 for a bloody iPhone then you can afford to go elsewhere and get a real data plan and not screw up SpeakOut's excellent $10 UMB plan. Here's hoping Rogers comes up with a way to stiff you guys without knocking the rest of us, who comply with the plan rules, out of business.

I think there is no reason to worry. SO knows exactly what it does and how it limits the services that one can use through port 80, besides it is just the low budget chapter of Rogers, so certainly no harm done there!

And yes, I can afford a $900 iPhone but I reject having a rip-off contract with one of the big three until prices and contract lengths come down to a more reasonable number! Knowing some European telecoms prices from own experience, it is unbelievable to me that the majority of Canadians dont question the current prices and t&c more and just pays up. My last contract in UK (set up 2 years ago) was for 1GB of data, 1000 text and 3000 minutes (or something ridiculous) and I paid the equivalent of $45 and a one-off fee of about $300 for an iPhone 4 32GB!

So I can only hope that more competition (not just in telecoms but also internet, cable tv and flights) regulates the market over here for the good of the consumers!

And until then I will remain a very happy SO customer …

chimpanzee said:

well not for me

In fact, after using push(at home/work via wifi) for a while now, I would prefer no push as it becomes extremely annoying. I would rather it to be just regular check every 30 minutes or so.

And no, push is extremely iffy and would not work even for activesync due to the short live of session on the proxy server.

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Oh well, notifications matter for me haha
but i have a question, if lets say u turn off push (is it the push in the mail settings?) and set it to manual for 30 mins for example, will the push notifications come every 30 mins? or is this push setting only for mail?
Thanks!

No, if you turn off push, push notifications will not work every 30 minutes. However if you set it to manual for 30 minutes, notifications if any will come every 30 minutes.

Hopefully that clears it all up.

well not for me

In fact, after using push(at home/work via wifi) for a while now, I would prefer no push as it becomes extremely annoying. I would rather it to be just regular check every 30 minutes or so.

And no, push is extremely iffy and would not work even for activesync due to the short live of session on the proxy server.

Oh well, notifications matter for me haha
but i have a question, if lets say u turn off push (is it the push in the mail settings?) and set it to manual for 30 mins for example, will the push notifications come every 30 mins? or is this push setting only for mail?
Thanks!

It's only a matter of time before you guys screw UMB up. There is no SpeakOut "data plan". It is Unlimited Mobile Browsing. If you can afford $700 for a bloody iPhone then you can afford to go elsewhere and get a real data plan and not screw up SpeakOut's excellent $10 UMB plan. Here's hoping Rogers comes up with a way to stiff you guys without knocking the rest of us, who comply with the plan rules, out of business.

First of all, i said iphone 4s instead of 5 (which is in fact 700), because its cheaper and thus CANT afford a $700 phone. I am also looking to buy a USED or at least new but LOCKED to rogers, which is cheaper. by a lot.
Second of all, how exactly are we screwing UMB up? i never mentioned "Data Plan".
Going back to money terms and being able to afford a phone, I am looking to get the UMB because i CANNOT afford a data plan whatsoever.

So I understad that if you're in an LTE covered area, you should be getting LTE on an iPhone 5, right?
And also, as for imessage and facetime, were you able to activate them usin ur phone number without having to jailbreak and modify files? Or did it activate when the short message window was open a while ago?
And finally, do push notifications work at all? Because not having push notifications unless at home is a waste of a ..smartphone (at least for me)
thanks!!

well not for me

In fact, after using push(at home/work via wifi) for a while now, I would prefer no push as it becomes extremely annoying. I would rather it to be just regular check every 30 minutes or so.

And no, push is extremely iffy and would not work even for activesync due to the short live of session on the proxy server.

thanks!!

Hey
I really want an iPhone (probably 4S so i can still be on iOS 5 and its cheaper... by alot ), and thinking of SpeakOut or Petro and go with the $20 plan, and maybe add UMB sometime later... so im just wondering about it, does it actually give you 3G or EDGE? because of what i know, its just EDGE, but in the link someone put, the iphone 5 was running on 3G, so how is that?
Also, push notifications dont work, do they?
What about google maps, mail app (Yahoo in particular), YouTube (app and website)? And do full websites (desktop websites, not mobile formatted) work? or is it just the mobile websites that do?
and finally, what about 3rd party apps like Draw Something, Dictionary.com, radio apps (virgin radio), dropbox, etc...?

Sorry about the large number of questions but thanks!!

oh and one last thing, how come PCM and SpeakOut work on Rogers phones, but not Fido, since fido uses rogers network too?

Thanks a lot!

Well, I guess 3G/EDGE depends on your area. I am in Downtown Toronto and have nothing but 3G. I have been to NL however and in some parts around St John's only had EDGE. So whenever there is no 3G, you will drop down to EDGE and if this is not available you will drop down to GPRS. Even GPRS is sufficient to check emails and retrieve simple information via web but not more. I would check your Rogers coverage and you should know what to expect.
Apps as far as I was/am concerned (iPhone 4 iOS 5 and now iPhone 5 iOS 6) run fine except for apps download and WhatsApp. All maps, email and Dropbox was and is working fine. I believe that iMessage and Facetime has issues but someone posted a workaround for this on this forum. All third party apps I use (mostly travel related stuff like guides, hotel apps, Tripadvisor etc) work without problems as they all use the HTTP port 80 that is open on SpeakOut.
No idea regarding your last question btw.
One other limitation btw: SpeakOut works only in Rogers-covered areas in Canada. So I for example had no reception in the rural parts of East Newfoundland. I also need a US SIM when travelling to the States but given that I save at least $250 per year I would otherwise pay for a bloody contract, I have no problems with that!

Sorry about the large number of questions but thanks!!

oh and one last thing, how come PCM and SpeakOut work on Rogers phones, but not Fido, since fido uses rogers network too?

Thanks a lot!

To activate an unlocked iPhone without speakout, do I just go down to 7-11 buy a sim card, cut it to size, stick it in and it works? Besides using safari and going to that website, is there anything else I need it to do? I'm new to all this and would really like help before I go waste 10 bucks on a sim card.

Once I get the sim card and activate the phone, then do I add the $25 credit to the account?

If you want to use data you also need to go to unlockit.co.nz (nothing to do with unlocking btw) to change your APN settings to SpeakOut.

Most well known carrier settings are applied automatically (ie Bell, Rogers, Telus etc), but SpeakOut doesn't, so you need to set them manually (ie unlockit.co.nz or via Apple Software Tool).

Once I get the sim card and activate the phone, then do I add the $25 credit to the account?

"Good artists copy, Great artists steal."

Straight from the horse's horse's mouth.

Apple tried this before in the GUI war with Microsoft and lost(which was not a jury trial).

And there is also no coincidence that they won in the jury trial in califonia yet mostly lost in other countries when ruled by judges, it is much easier to influence the general public(read a form of marketing and brand building, we see this in politics too)

As for smoothness in iphone, it is not secret sauce but the plain old 'doing fewer things in the background' and also the plain old technical aspect that iOS UI is running in native code whereas android UI is a java VM on top of linux.

I was also arguing that Apple phones were superior, up to now. I suspect the resale market for all iPhones will crater because of that fact. Especially the iPhone 5 because of it's non standard port and weird SIM card bracket.