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        	<title>c.ferguson23@hotmail.com on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Yup, PC has had their mobile browsing rates switched for a while now. That is the only reason I made the switch to SO.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:45:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>kerk72 on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Looks like PC got smart, don't see the 25 cents a day browsing listed anywhere, now its 100mb or 500mb for $10 or $25 per month.  I guess that's the price for having them add Androids to the phone line-up.  Bummer, I was thinking of switching my E71 over.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:49:05 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>RonM on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>The Telus HSDPA may or may not be on the air and it won't make huge differences. The rollout that may have happened already and/or is to happen soon will be of limited use anywhere outside the perimiter highway surrounding the City of Winnipeg. At best it will be a corridor along the Trans Canada Highway from Winnipeg to Brandon and possibly to Steinbach. </p>
<p>If you Google "Telus HSPA coverage Manitoba" you will find dozens of links and lots of discussion about what is happening in Manitoba. These are probably the best description of what is happening:<br />
<a target="new" href="http://tek.ca/2011/02/telus-hspa-comes-to-manitoba-february-16th/"></a><a href="http://tek.ca/2011/02/telus-hs" rel="nofollow">http://tek.ca/2011/02/telus-hs</a>.....uary-16th/<br />
or <a target="new" href="http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/02/01/telus-soft-launching-hspa-in-manitoba-on-february-16th/"></a><a href="http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/02" rel="nofollow">http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/02</a>.....uary-16th/<br />
There are lots of unhappy people.</p>
<p>Telus partnered with Sask Tel so Saskatchewan is covered or in the process of being covered. Telus and MTS did not partner. </p>
<p>MTS partnered with Rogers for HSDPA. The rollout of the MTS HSDPA is scheduled for the end of March. I was in Manitoba at the beginning of February and Rogers/Speakout phones both showed more 3G coverage than on a visit last fall so the network is expanding.<br />
<a target="new" href="http://www.thompsoncitizen.net/article/20110216/THOMPSON0101/302169985/-1/thompson/mts-v-rogers-let-the-smartphones-war-for-northern-manitoba-begin"></a><a href="http://www.thompsoncitizen.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.thompsoncitizen.net</a>.....toba-begin</p>
<p>Telus apparently bought spectrum in Manitoba for province wide coverage, so they can't force MTS to provide roaming. Bell didn't bid on that auction — partly because of their deal to carve Canada in half with Telus. Bell could force MTS to allow roaming for phone and text because they have no spectrum licensed in Manitoba — where that leaves President's Choice is anybody's guess.<br />
<a target="new" href="http://www.howardforums.com/printthread.php?t=1578776&#38;pp=15&#38;page=14"></a><a href="http://www.howardforums.com/pr" rel="nofollow">http://www.howardforums.com/pr</a>.....mp;page=14<br />
Scroll down to a post by Que_Ball that has explanation and links explaining the rules.</p>
<p>Coverage in Manitoba is going to be strange for a long time to come. MTS have roaming agreements with Telus and Bell for voice and text but no data on Telus or Bell CDMA phones — that covers most of the province. MTS covers most of the province for voice and text and parts of the province with data on their CDMA network. Rogers covers a fairly large part of Southern Manitoba with their GSM network. There is less coverage than MTS CDMA in lots or rural areas and nothing in the north.  When the Rogers/MTS partnership is rolled out completely, MTS and Rogers 3G phones will have as much or more coverage than the MTS CDMA network. You can roam outside Manitoba on the Rogers network with your MTS 3G phone. You can roam outside Manitoba with your MTS CDMA phone on the Telus and Bell Networks.</p>
<p>Confused yet?</p>
<p>Telus and/or Bell will not ever have full province wide 3G coverage without building a huge amount of towers and repeater sites. That will happen slowly if at all. They may provide coverage along the major highways in southern Manitoba but even that will not be complete in the forseeable future.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:15:12 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info and prompt reply!  Telus has just launced its HSPA service but coverage is brutal... Looks like I will still need to opt for the Speak out option and a T-Mobile card for roaming in the US,and put up with watered down data service.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 05:55:11 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>bridonca on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>The $100 President's Choice mobile phone top up card lasts a year,  anything smaller lasts 1 month or 2.   </p>
<p>President's Choice/Loblaws still mostly sell the older CDMA phones, but they now sell a few phones that do take SIM cards.  You can also buy separate President's Choice SIM cards for $10 here in Halifax.  I do not know if you can buy the SIM cards in all areas of Canada though.  </p>
<p>I do not know for sure if Bell/Telus have activated HSDPA towers in Manitoba yet.  It is supposed to happen real soon now if it has not already.  I do not live there, so I cannot give a first hand experience. You need to be near a Bell/Telus HSDPA tower for President's Choice Mobile SIMs to work.  </p>
<p>When shopping for a phone, you need to find one that works with Bell, Telus, Virgin or Koodo, and it has to be unlocked.    These phones should work fine with T-mobile's 2G network.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 05:36:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Bridonca, I have a couple questions re the comparison.  1. Do you know if the President's Choice minutes last for a year as with SO?  2. Does the PC system use SIM based phone like SO?  3. Would there be any issue using the PC system to do voice and data in Manitoba using an unlocked SIM based smartphone and have capability to swap in a T-Mobile card when in the US?</p>
<p>Thanks for all the time and expertice answering questions from dum__ss newbie like myself!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:49:16 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>bridonca on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I am happy with President's Choice/Bell mobile data so far.  The data is a little slower than Speak-out/Rogers, but it is less restrictive.  Then you have to add in the other advantages, which are numerous.</p>
<p>A President's Choice SIM costs $10, with $10 of airtime,  Speak-out SIM cards cost $25 and only come with $5 of airtime.</p>
<p>President's Choice's monthly fee with data and SAF is about $8,   Speak-out's fee is $11.25</p>
<p>President's Choice calls are 20 cents a minute.  Speak-out charges 25 cents.</p>
<p>As for for disadvantages, Bell's business practices still scares me.  Then again, Roger's FIDO division also did me wrong. I think it is really good to have another company like Loblaws or 7-11 as intermediaries.  It helps that their success revolves around keeping their customers happy.  They certainly have more clout when dealing with the telcos than I would.  Negative customer satisfaction seems not to affect the telcos bottom line.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 17:24:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>manteiv on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>So Bridonca, you are an experienced user, now with the 'new' PC-mobile/Bell access, do you think it is better than the Speak-out/Rogers network?</p>
<p>is the browsing less restrictive now as opposed to Rogers?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:47:27 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,  I  activated it and got data working today.  Opera was giving me problems, but once I disabled turbo mode, all was good.  Not all that fast, but I am using it through the proxy.  I always worry Bell is going to find a way to overcharge, but the President's Choice mobile people assure me any charges would get reversed.   I am satisifed enough that I will talk to Speakout to deactivate my data for a few months so I have the 1 year, $100 credit last the full year.  2 data plans for $200 is a pretty good deal!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 17:53:40 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Bridonca</p>
<p>Have you given another try at Pc Mobile? it should have better coverage than Rogers in your area.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:06:05 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>This looks like the settings.  If I am wrong, let me know.</p>
<p>APN: proxy.bell.ca<br />
Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca<br />
Port: 80</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 04:03:15 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody post all the settings required for the PC profile including APN (proxy.bell.ca), password, port, etc?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 03:54:51 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>You are getting good speeds. Currently on Speakout I'm getting 800 kbps 3G speeds.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 03:47:41 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I have good news!</p>
<p>President's Choice Mobile UBM is working for my Nokia E71 at 3G speed!</p>
<p>I went to Loblaws and got the $10 SIM which came with a $10 credit, activated over the phone, added the UMB for $0.25 a day.  The system deducts right away $0.40 for the 911 fee and $0.25 UMB, leaving a balance of $9.35.  I configured the APN as described above.  Some people reported you have to create this new APN without the SIM inserted and you might have to pull out the SIM and re-insert it twice and make sure the settings are remembered correctly by the phone.  In my case, I did not have to do that.  The phone remembered the settings correctly on the first try.</p>
<p>I have been browsing since this afternoon and regularly checked the balance, it is still at $9.35</p>
<p>I have yet to find a website or application that does not work properly.  So far, regular browsing, youtube, skype VoIP, MSN, TV broadcast such as live BBC, CNN, CBC etc. work properly</p>
<p>I tested several times at different moments of the day with dslreports\mspeed and I consistently get speeds between 1.2 and 1.8 Mbits/s so I am quite happy for 25 cents!</p>
<p>By the way, is that a good speed for 3G? how fast is Bell 3G supposed to be?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:36:57 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>That is very welcome news!  I hope it also works for me!     I was using the pda.bell.ca APN with proxy in January and had problems!  I will have to talk to the President's Choice people again.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:19:53 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I think things might have changed for President's Choice UMB since Feb according to a post on Redflagdeals.com.  Some people have reported that it is possible to use the $7 UMB on a smartphone provided the APN is configured correctly.  The correct APN should be proxy.bell.ca not pda.bell.ca.  Apparently if the settings is left to the default pda.bell.ca, a smartphone will get the 5 cents per kb which will use up the money quite fast.  However if the APN is set to proxy.bell.ca, you can benefit from the UMB.</p>
<p>Also, it was reported very recently it is working in 3G without the WAP browsing limitations.</p>
<p>When you tried last time, were you aware of these two different APN settings?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:02:20 -0800</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I do.  With President's choice mobile SIM card, the 20 cents a minute rate is nice.  Paying $10 for just the SIM card which has $10 credit is also nice.  However, the unlimited browsing option is very bad.  At least when it comes to using your E71.  At best, it will just not work, at worst, you will get charged 5 cents a kilobyte.  </p>
<p>If however, if you get you hands on a Bell Nokia 2730, UMB works great.  The problem is the phone is garbage because of the fecal matter Bell adds to the phone.  </p>
<p>I hope things have changed, but it was certainly like that in January.</p>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>One member on the other forum mentioned Loblaws/President's choice that runs on Bell. Apparently it has the UMB and the Web browsing is full-enabled.  Do you have any more details or experience on this?</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:02:33 -0800</pubDate>
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        	<title>bridonca on Does a smartphone qualifies for the Unlimited browsing? (Nokia E71)</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>The proxy does odd things to some web pages, resizes pictures, and other odd stuff.  For the most part, most web pages work, but if the page is overly complicated, not so much.  Not really a big deal with the E71, because it's browser is not the greatest in handling those type of pages very well anyway.   I believe it is worth $10 for what you get, but you won't get the kitchen sink.  </p>
<p>I tell you what I do with my E71 besides browsing.  I use MGMaps, Google maps, upload pics to Fickr and OVI directly, I can Gmail, send and receive free SMS messages with Google Voice, and other stuff I do not remember right now.  All for $10.</p>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I have another question: I remember reading somewhere here that the Petro and SO web browsing is done through a Proxy server and restricted to WAP pages only. </p>
<p>What exactly does that mean in plain English?  how limiting is that?</p>
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