However, my guess is that Speakout will keep it's 365 day expiry time, at least for the $100 top-up (at a minimum), because many of the other cellphone companies (including Rogers) have a $100/365day top-up. And Speakout does use the Roger's system.

And, in all honesty, the 365 day expiry is Speakout's MAIN selling point. Without it, Speakout might as well give up.

The expiry dates are now 30 days for 10$, 90 days for 20$, 120 days for 30$ and you get 365 days from 50$ or 100$.

Will this not mean they will do the same in Canada?
Since when do they have these denominations in america? Is it recent? If it is recent, then I fear for speakout in Canada

This forum has ignored Speakout for too long! We have spent all our time talking about Speakout, when we should have been talking about Speakout! What were we thinking?

(BTW, that site you found was the US site with US prices).

Peter said:

Mel Boracis said:

So has the rate changed to $0.25/minute for all denominations with speakout or was it really just a system glitch?

System glitch. Speak Out's effective rate for $75 and $100 vouchers is still $0.20 per minute.

The rate is $.25 a min., but when you buy a $75 or $100 voucher, you get $93.75 or $125 worth of credit. That is what "effective rate" is supposed to mean. Ie, you get as much total time credit as if the rate were $.20.

Mel Boracis said:

So has the rate changed to $0.25/minute for all denominations with speakout or was it really just a system glitch?

System glitch. Speak Out's effective rate for $75 and $100 vouchers is still $0.20 per minute.

now this really sucks for occasion users, the minimum to spend is $75 for 360 days,

since petro and 7-11 are both from Ztar, any guess that 7-11 will do the same thing to make their customers pay more?

I got screwed by PCM, so now looking for a gooder option.

Call them again. That wasn't the answer I got. I received the bonus credit. See my other post here.

I bought a $75 voucher last night, trusting their literature that I'd get the $0.20/minute rate. I noticed today that I was being charged the .25 and called customer service. They told me that the $0.20 for $75 and $100 vouchers was a limited time promotion. I told them that nowhere in their literature, signage, or web site is that indicated, but they still told me I was basically screwed.

I told them they'd just lost a customer.

If they want to raise their rates, fine. But don't deceive your customers into buying triple the airtime they'd otherwise purchase.

dnm said:

As of today, PCM customers are getting screwed even harder.

The rates have gone up to match 7-11s, and they've dropped how long the airtime is good for to just as short (and in some cases shorter) than the incumbents.

Just like every other company it seems, the economy is in the can, so they sat in their boardrooms, and thought, HOW CAN WE ROYALLY SCREW OUR CUSTOMERS?!

Imbeciles.

Made me wish so hard yesterday I would have bought the 2 free phones last August. I thought hard to buy it but then I said, hey I have PCM and it's only 20c/min for 180 days. Very likely I will consume my airtime before then. Now I'm getting as you said royally screwed with 25$ airtime for .25c/min and only 120 days.

The rates have gone up to match 7-11s, and they've dropped how long the airtime is good for to just as short (and in some cases shorter) than the incumbents.

Just like every other company it seems, the economy is in the can, so they sat in their boardrooms, and thought, HOW CAN WE ROYALLY SCREW OUR CUSTOMERS?!

Imbeciles.

Not according to the new rate structure...

Not according to the old rate structure either. Yet in practice they would do phone number changes for free so long as the number was for a new location.

Has that policy changed now?

Anyone been charged?

Bylo said:

You can buy the phone and airtime anywhere. Then call customer service, tell them you live in Owen Sound and need a local number. They'll assign you one without charge.

When my $100 ran out, I was just going to put on $25 at a time until another phone (or minute!) deal came along. Now, I don't have the leisure time to pick and choose. 🙁

$.20/min for the first 5 minutes each day, then $.12 per minute afterwards.

$20 min. top-up each month.

But these rates ONLY apply when you sign up for a monthly pre-authorized payment plan.

If you don't get on the pre-authorized payment plan, then it costs $.25/min for the first 5min per day, then $.15/min afterwards.

That plan is great if you make a couple of calls per day (at least on the days that you make calls).

If that doesn't work for you, then Speakout may be better.

JB said:

At Rogers, you get 0.12 cents per minute if you top up monthly with a $20 minimum. Any unused airtime is carried over to the next month. That is, it never expires once you top up monthly with a $20 minimum. Incoming text messages are free and 911 is only 0.50 cents per month. Why go with 7-11 at 0.25 cents per minute, 0.99 cents for 911 and 0.05 cents for incoming texts ???????

Why go with 7-11? Hmmm..

You are saying I get 12 cents/minute with a minimum month top up of $20???

$20/month X 12 months = $240.00 annually. (and that's a minimum).

With Speakout, my annual top up costs $25.00. That's $215 a year more money than Speakout.

Speakout is for users who use their phone occasionally, like myself. I would rather pay $25 or even $50 a year than $240 a year as you suggest. Airtime is carried over with Speakout as well.