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October 27, 2008
10:22 am
kyle
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This is probabally a pretty stupid question, but if i was to purchase this phone http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/.....;langid=EN

Could I goto a petro station, purchase a phone card and the phone would work? Or do I need to buy a phone from petro?

October 27, 2008
10:57 am
Peter
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A Telus phone would not work because it does not take a SIM card. You would need to purchase either a Rogers phone or an unlocked Fido phone. Then, you would have to purchase a Petro or 7-Eleven SIM card. In a retail store, a SIM card always comes bundled with a phone, so you could buy them, swap the Petro or 7-Eleven SIM card into your other phone, then sell the bundled phone as well as the Rogers / Fido SIM card. Or, you could buy just the Petro or 7-Eleven SIM card from someone else in the phone exchange forum.

October 27, 2008
11:03 am
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You can't buy that phone from BB without activating it to Telus and entering into some sort of Telus pre-paid plan. The phone will be locked to Telus.

In any case that phone won't work on SpeakOut or Petro Mobility because they use a different technology (GSM) from Telus and Bell (CDMA).

Also even if that phone worked in principle with SpeakOut or Petro Mobility you can't buy a SIM card from them without also buying a phone from them. You may be able to find someone on this forum that has a SpeakOut or Petro Mobility SIM for sale separately.

If you want a Moto W385 that works with SpeakOut or Petro Mobility then look here. They have W375s. I don't know what the W385 adds. In any case you will need an unlocked GSM phone that works on the 850/1900 (at least) bands.

October 27, 2008
4:27 pm
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Hey thanks for the infomations guys. I was looking at GSM cellphones on ebay, and i came across this one http://cgi.ebay.ca/LG-CU575-AT.....otohosting

If i was to buy this, unlock it, take a sim card out of the cheapest phone they offer at petro canada, would it work ok? Do they charge any fee for changing phones? and would the number still be the same? Thanks

October 27, 2008
5:39 pm
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If i was to buy this, unlock it, take a sim card out of the cheapest phone they offer at petro canada, would it work ok?

Yes.

Do they charge any fee for changing phones?

No.

would the number still be the same?

Yes.

But why buy a used, locked phone off eBay when you can buy new, unlocked phones for the same or less money from places like I linked to above? For some issues about buying used phones, see here.

October 27, 2008
6:14 pm
kyle
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Very good point. I decided that I will get this phone
http://www.puremobile.ca/itemd.....c=100-2948

Everything seems to look ok. This should work just fine with a petro plan right?

October 27, 2008
7:45 pm
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This should work just fine with a petro plan right?

Yes. It covers only the 1900 band (900/1800 is for overseas) but it should be OK on the SO (Rogers) network. 850/1900 would be even better, e.g. http://www.puremobile.ca/Motor.....furbished/ because there may still be some areas where towers support only 850 MHz.

October 27, 2008
9:28 pm
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Thank you for your help. I bought a different phone off of tigerdirect. Now my last quesion is when i goto my local petro station and buy the cheapest phone they have to get the sim card, does it come with any credit on it? And also if I want to purchased $50 worth of credit, do I pay for that when i buy the phone or do i top up my account later once i switch the sim card to my new phone? Thanks

October 27, 2008
11:13 pm
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If PetroCan Mob is like SpeakOut then the phone comes with a SIM/phone number that has $5 credit. Airtime credit is associated with your SIM/phone number so you can buy credits at any time and apply top-ups from any phone in which your SIM is inserted.

October 28, 2008
11:25 am
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Kyle,

Here's a Halloween inspired explanation.

Just think of it this way. The 'brains' of your phone is the SIM card. And just like some old Frankenstein horror movie, you can perform a brain transplant into whatever body (errr... phone....) that you want, provided that the body (phone) has an empty head to place the brain.

What kind of body (phone) is required for a brain transplant? Well, it has to be a GSM phone, since you can separate the brain and body with GSM phones, and you can't do that with CDMA (Bell and Telus) phones. (plus the technology is different, etc etc).

Then the new host body (phone) must be able to accept the new brain. Some bodies (phones) are locked to a certain type of brain (SIM cards from a specific company like Rogers or Fido), while other bodies can accept any type brain.

The brain's memories (phone number, balance on your plan, etc) are stored in the brain, not the body. So you can transplant the brain in a Motorola body, load it up with money, use it for a while, then transplant the brain into a Nokia body, and everything stays pretty much the same.

Your phone number, balance on your account, and maybe your contact list (see below) are all associated with the brain, not the body. You can have a different body for every day of the week, and as long as you're using the same brain, Speakout or PetroCan don't care.

Notes about Brain Transplants:

You'll have to remember to configure the new body so that it knows what the Speakout/PetroCan voicemail phone number is. So when you get a voicemail and the phone asks you if you want to listen to it, it knows where to call. You'll just have to do that once.

When you are typing in all your friend's phone numbers, try and make sure that they are stored on the SIM card (brain). Sometimes you will store them on the phone (body) so when you do a brain transplant the numbers will still be on the original body. If they are on the SIM card, you'll have them with you regardless of what phone you're using.

Disclaimer:

Big Ang is not a brain surgeon, nor does he play one on TV. Big Ang is not responsible for you creating a Frankenstein-type monster, who then might wreck havoc on the nearby town. Big Ang is not responsible for any death or damage to any property or persons if the townsfolk rise up against you and charge your castle with torches and pitchforks.

October 28, 2008
11:47 am
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Here's a Halloween inspired explanation.

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