Last week I woke up to a complete connectivity loss to the highspeed network. I'm using an Android, HTC EVO 3d. I had the phone set to only connect to 3g. Now I cannot connect at all, I get an error when trying to connect manually that says my sim cannot connect to the network.

I have read the other thread on this subject but it's not spotty 3g service I'm getting. No matter what community I go to, I cannot connect. If this is the end of high speed browsing on Speakout, I will be forced to go to Rogers or Fido. I imagine many other Speakout customers who only stayed for the cheap highspeed browsing will leave as well.

Speakout customer service cannot help since there is no guarantee of 3g on "their" network.

Uicc update fail 2"

Here's hoping it's just a temporary problem. Though I doubt it.

spaceprobe said:

what is the speed difference between 3g and the old 2g network?

Quite a bit. 3G is much faster than 2G. If I had to use a real life example, it would be like comparing dial up internet vs DSL. On EDGE, I wait a lot longer for my pages to load.

it is not phone issue for sure. I have LG and Samsung both are 3G capable and can confirm that they are now EDGE/GSM only. It is not just data but that if you disable GSM, even voice would not work.

As for the speed, EDGE is about 300Kbps, UMTS as far as my measure goes is about 5Mbps.

For my usage which is checking email, it is ok but not something you want to use for generic browsing, google maps etc.

As shown I am in vanvouver and never see EDGE except when deep inside a building that is not reachable by 3G.

No one knows if it is a policy change or just temp network change.

looks like this GSM only is a policy change.

I need to go abroad tomorrow so switch my SIM to a global roaming SIM and it automatically use UMTS instead of GSM. This SIM is non-canadian and bought for a few years when 3G wasn't even that popular.

So it seems that Rogers deliberately disallow SO/Petro Canada SIM to use 3G network and force it to 2G towers/channels.

For those who relies on the cheap 3G, it is a history now.

chimpanzee said:

looks like this GSM only is a policy change.

For those who relies on the cheap 3G, it is a history now.

Maybe, but then Why am I still getting 3G coverage both where I live and where I work? If it was a policy change you'd think it would be implemented across the board!

I can guarantee that they are not blacklisting phones. In certain areas of Toronto (Scarborough) I cannot get 3G anymore, but as soon as I go either side of that area 3G resumes working. So for some reason they have shut down service in certain areas. As I travel across the city by train every day, I get a good sampling of where 3G service is active, and since Nov 2nd there has been no further decrease in 3G access.

i have the same problem here in winnipeg today what gives ??? does anyone know whats going on ???

andreww said:

I can guarantee that they are not blacklisting phones. In certain areas of Toronto (Scarborough) I cannot get 3G anymore, but as soon as I go either side of that area 3G resumes working. So for some reason they have shut down service in certain areas. As I travel across the city by train every day, I get a good sampling of where 3G service is active, and since Nov 2nd there has been no further decrease in 3G access.

blacklist phone is too cumbersome for them, blacklist SIM is very easy. The feature was there may be for 20+ years. All the roaming agreement of GSM based on this.

My guess is as time goes by there will be fewer and fewer location with 3G on SO and eventually none.