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May 22, 2012
2:10 pm
winnipegmike
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The coverage map for NW Ontario shows no coverage between Kenora and Thunder Bay. It is definitely true as I just drove through there, but the person I was travelling with had coverage in most of the area (he is on Rogers, using a Blackberry. I'm just wondering why there is no coverage for Petro? Is it a phone limitation (I have the nokia C3). If I was using a blackberry or iphone would I get coverage in that area?

Thanks

May 22, 2012
3:05 pm
iamdrumming
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It's because the person has Rogers 3G, of which there is coverage in that area. Rogers has crippled 3G coverage for Petro/SpeakOut users.

May 22, 2012
3:26 pm
winnipegmike
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so if I had a 3g phone, would it work there?

May 22, 2012
4:14 pm
iamdrumming
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Only if you had a Rogers sim card. Like I said, if you had a Petro/SpeakOut sim card in a 3G phone, you would only get 2G. Petro/SpeakOut is a 2G provider.

May 22, 2012
10:06 pm
chimpanzee
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based on what you said petro can/SO has crippled 3G ? There are lots of evidences showing it use the same 3G network. I haven't seen a case(reported and repeatedly tested) where for the same phone at the same location, a SO sim would get 2G while rogers SIM get 3G.

I very much doubt rogers would dare to control it to that level.

Just one data point, I have used 4 different model of 3G phones(samsung/lg/apple) in metro vancouver/richmond/burnaby area and I always get 3G except when I am deep inside hard to reach location which dropped to EDGE.

May 23, 2012
4:15 am
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Petro Canada are SpeakOut are 2G only unlimited browsing providers until they say they otherwise. We have had enough people unfairly complaining when the free data was cut off. Instead of having the mindset in that it was fun while it lasted, some people got real snotty when something they were not paying for got cut off!

I currently get 3G here in Halifax, but if it downgrades to 2G, that is fine also. I know what I am paying for, and I know what is promised to me.

May 23, 2012
6:40 am
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that is not the point, no one said SO gaurantee 3G but saying it is crippled in the sense that one would only get 2G would require some evidence to support such claim.

Beside, I don't see where SO says they are 2G provider, they don't even mention they are GSM provider. They are just a mobile service provider and don't have 3G model lineup.

May 23, 2012
6:44 am
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It's not SpeakOut or Petro that cripples things. It's Rogers that's behind it, and also who opened the data not too long ago. Yes, SpeakOut is 2G, until they officially state otherwise.

May 23, 2012
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Proof please.

I have given you the situation in greater vancouver area, and there are lots of other people saying they are getting 3G in other muni. I haven't seen one person saying they get 2G while the friend sitting next to them get 3G on rogers sim(even there were a few claimed case, it was later confirmed to be user error and a reset of the phone fixed that).

So what data point you can provide that points to rogers crippled SO sim to make it only connect to their tower at 2G ?

SO doesn't say about 'G' on their official site, we all deduce it from the simple fact that they only sell 2G GSM models. Now that they sell SIM only, even that becomes iffy.

May 23, 2012
9:16 am
iamdrumming
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I was told by SpeakOut themselves it was a 2G service when I signed up with the service years ago. The same goes with an email I received awhile back from SpeakOut that Rogers does indeed call the shots (cripples). It is their network we are using. They can do what they please.

So it doesn't say 'G' on their network. Who cares? Maybe we're all using CDMA all along. [Image Can Not Be Found]

Until officially stated, it is still (obviously) a 2G service.

That's all I'm going to say for now. It seems like you are in a very argumentative mood. I suggest you find someone that wants to argue back forth, and have fun. I won't be that person [Image Can Not Be Found]

Hope you have a better day.

May 23, 2012
10:42 am
chimpanzee
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It is not argument but plain facts.

I don't enjoy arguing but would point things that is obviously wrong as it affects others decision.

Everyday is a good day for me [Image Can Not Be Found]

May 25, 2012
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Sorry for this post causing so much controversy. Anyway, I was in Dryden, ON on Thursday night. I put my sim in in a rogers phone and it worked. It didnt work in my C3 petro phone. Thank you to everyone for the input.13